Curse

Avarre · May 16, 2006, 02:11 PM // 14:11

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Originally Posted by generik

The region that I am going to dread the most would be the drox run stretch by far.. intend to leave it for last, but still contemplating how I will ultimately have to clear that whole lot by hench power alone.

There's an ele drok run build buried deep in Tyrian, I believe. Regardless, you'd have to clear the side passage on the east... hench is the only way

94.5% atm on mesmer, definitely easier on warrior because they can solo through many areas just by pure force, where hench fail.

Cherno · May 16, 2006, 02:43 PM // 14:43

Actually an ele might be better suited to getting the title.

Achieving grandmaster is an isepid task of spider crawling on just about every wall you can find.

As I was doing it with my ranger, I started out doing running builds just about everywhere. But often found I had to switch to a fighting build to get most of it.

It is a mix of running and fighting that you will have to do. Running alone will not get it all done, imo. You will run into too many places where you have to get right up to an edge and spend a lot of time in crevices while trying to avoid mobs. It is much easier to just clear the mob and then move on and take your time to make sure you have fully explored.

I started out wanting to do this on my ele since he was my first character, but then switched to my ranger as he had more opened and could be more successful running. I wound up doubling back over previously explored areas a number of times having to fight just to finish it up to 100%.

I will not be attempting this on another character now that I have it done.

Just knowing where you are going and the types of mobs will determine if you should mainly fight or run. Just mix and match and you can get it done

Ellipson · May 16, 2006, 03:09 PM // 15:09

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Originally Posted by Kook~NBK~

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The question I have is: Am I going to be able to reach 100% without the combat areas in the Ascalon / Yaks arenas and without the old arenas uncovered?

You can see most of the combat area of Ascalon from the place where it starts. The guard will let you into the holding area, I already went in there with my mesmer.

Seef II · May 16, 2006, 07:10 PM // 19:10

You can explore the tar river in Old Ascalon - reveals a good portion near the arena fight.

Chilly Ress · May 16, 2006, 07:16 PM // 19:16

Ya, getting 100% with an ele is difficult as I should know. My ele is currently at 89.2%, getting there!

Dweia · May 16, 2006, 11:04 PM // 23:04

My ele had 100% when the titles went in. Then again, I am a ninja at wall hugging. She now also has 90% for Cantha.

/signs petition to open up Shing Jea for Tyrian toons!!

noblepaladin · May 17, 2006, 12:29 AM // 00:29

EDIT: Please use the build forums for build information. Also, tips for cartography titles can be found in the Tyrian and Canthan Explorer's League forums. -Swampgirl

Amber Spiritkeeper · Oct 05, 2006, 10:44 AM // 10:44

Well i got 100% of Tyria map done (nutty i know) so if u wanna run just changed your secondary pro to ranger (El/Ranger). If not i remember sacrificing my hench group a lot in Lornars pass. Most places i fought through, it takes patience. Yes those Frost Imps up in Mineral Springs north east they got me like 10 times as i went a little berserk there.
Good luck! /Fiona Tempest (el/mo)

Gun Pierson · Oct 05, 2006, 10:55 AM // 10:55

After the preview Nightfall weekend I started to go for the canthan title. I had set my monk to monk class only during nightfall weekend (I find it cool looking) and didn't get a second class again since then. Got the grandmaster title yesterday and I did notice I had to use a different style compared when I was mo/ra when I got the Tyrian title. I died more and I had to fight and clean some areas. There can be many other causes for this like the difference in areas etc. but it's just the impression I have.

UBS · Oct 05, 2006, 02:30 PM // 14:30

Took me around 2 hours to clear the whole droks run, and completely uncover it on my monk.

I did it with henchies^^ Also capped FoC xD

mushy · Oct 05, 2006, 03:03 PM // 15:03

Sorry if this is off topic slightly...I'm reading this topic, and it's real nice ppl saying 'i got 60%' and happy with it, 'i saw a mes and he got 100% i respect him'...rather than ppl always 'bringing down' ppl's achievements...It's nice to see that ppl are still pleased with 60%, mes completing game, ele getting 100%, etc...Not everything is always about getting the max

Moiax · Oct 05, 2006, 03:44 PM // 15:44

I find it easier to just hench it. I cleared snake dance with my warrior, mostly becasue I wanted to cap earthshaker, but it took awhile and I had 60dp untill I capped, but it was worth it. It actually feels good to have cleared a place like that out.

felinette · Oct 05, 2006, 04:31 PM // 16:31

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Originally Posted by generik

But lately I have embarked on getting that title for an ele, and it becomes quite apparent after a few quick deaths that eles are genuinely not meant for running. So.. has anyone managed to clear the whole map literally by clearing the whole map of mobs?

Yes. My ranger did. My ranger has grandmaster cartographer but doesn't run. Period. She fights. And caps. And has fun. So take out a full party of hench and get to it!

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Originally Posted by Cherno

I will not be attempting this on another character now that I have it done.

Same here. Most tedious title ever. One character is enough!

bamm bamm bamm · Oct 05, 2006, 05:00 PM // 17:00

Running for cartography is overrated anyway, you'll never get 100% if you run everywhere as most of the time you'll be going back to places you already ran to get the bits you inevitably missed. Stick to clearing places out.

Regarding 'respect' for the title, I respect anyone who has made it from 95% to 100%, as I know how much of a pain in the arse it is to achieve. Yes, even with photoshop.

Sir Skullcrasher · Oct 05, 2006, 10:31 PM // 22:31

My wammo Grim usually pick up percentage by going to random places with henchies or friends. Currently i'm 77.9% in Tyria and 68% in Cantha.

S_Serpent · Oct 06, 2006, 07:52 AM // 07:52

An elementalist as primary char here too, and I'm almost at 95% at Tyria and 94% at Cantha. So I know its not easy, but it really feels rewarding to know you almost uncovered every thing on the map

Jackylicious · Oct 06, 2006, 08:04 AM // 08:04

Didn't find it any harder with my ele than any other class. In fact easier at times. I map as I play the game so everything dies and no running regardless of class.

CorstedPirate · Oct 06, 2006, 08:22 AM // 08:22

I have been working on the Cartographer titles with my monk. My monk is my main character, so she must have them done. I'm up to 91.8% or Tyria and 98.9% of Cantha. Healing through everything with henchies where I can and guildies who are also obsessed where I can't. It is often very annoying and sometimes takes ages to get a small section cleared. I don't use running skills at all for mapping. It took me a couple tries yesturday to get the area where Sunreach is done, since I was using henchies and he surprised me! It is good to have guildies who are dying to get KOABD as much as I am, I can ask them for help if I get really desparate.

We are cheapskates too, so paying for a title even as cool looking as incorgable ale hound is considered a bit of a waste in my guild. One of my guildies recently got his skill hunter title as maxed as he can get it too. I'm in a bit of a race with him to get the Cartographer titles done and then on to KOABD!

Diablo™ · Oct 06, 2006, 08:43 AM // 08:43

Necrotic Traversal comes in handy

Trinity Entragian · Oct 06, 2006, 08:58 AM // 08:58

Completed Tyrian GM Cart a week or so ago with my E/Mo...already had 90% or so when titles came out, but I'm lazy, so it took a while to get motivated to finish it.

Used henchies for pretty much all of the last 10%, no 'running' - my legs are too short - and no special builds..except for that one place.

Not the hardest thing in the world to do, but has to rank in the top ten most tedious.

And yes, necrotic traversal is very handy..got me my last .1%